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By: Zend Framework is NOT bloated | Juozas devBlog

Zend Framework is NOT bloated | Juozas devBlog — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:48:45 +0000

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By: Newbie

Newbie — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:08:22 +0000

I personally prefer Kohana. Its powerful, lightweight, scalable and has a promising future.

Zend in my opinion is pretty much a collection of libraries, and given that they can be easily integrated with Kohana, I’m inclined to use Kohana as the base for a web application and use Zend components as and when required!

By: Nick

Nick — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:19:17 +0000

Hi,

I don’t agree with the idea that ZF is more like a component repository. Although you can decouple almost every component, they work extremely well together.

About scaffolding, the closest thing out there is this datagrid.

http://petala-azul.com/blog/
examples here: http://petala-azul.com/grid

cheers,

By: Juozas

Juozas — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:08:47 +0000

Ohh, I see comments about performance :) Why is that everyone starts from this, without even having benchmarks? I have starting writing a post about this “Zend Framework is not FAT”, but pretty much from my experience framework is not a bottleneck. There other things you need to know and as with all cases – you need to have experience with framework, to know where caching must be enabled and etc. Lightweight framework doesn’t mean it’s a fast framework (not always), for example this example: http://www.doctrine-project.org/blog/php-benchmarking-mythbusters. I will write more about this very soon.

Speaking of books, this one seems to be good, although I haven’t read it myself. There a few more, but basically manual+blogs+google is a way to go I would say.

Usually I don’t even read the manual, but just jump straight into the code – IDE’s have good support for navigation by method name, so finding out what is happening and what data needs to be passed is only a matter of a few moments. Apart from that, manual works great for me, even though I would like to have more examples – sometimes it just takes time to get how all these objects should be connected together.

By: TIbo

TIbo — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:25:29 +0000

I agree that the learning curve can be high although once mastered the the flexibility is a real plus. Imho the manual describes a lot but is not too useful as reference guide. I can really advise to look at the API docs. Seeing what methods exist gives a good overview and good leads to find specific blogpost.

By: Keith

Keith — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:53:24 +0000

Any recommendations of books on ZF which are a good starting point for beginners?

By: EllisGL

EllisGL — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:44:17 +0000

Paulius, most frameworks allow you to include the Zend library. Kohana 2.x and 3.0 can do it with out much effort.

By: Pádraic Brady

Pádraic Brady — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:18:35 +0000

@Paulius: other frameworks have library components also. ZF just takes it an all new level where the MVC is practically teeny compared to the rest of what it offers. It’s performance is also extremely good, and about to get a *lot* better in ZF 2.0. If you disagree, I’d love to see the benchmarks you’re basing this on.

@EllisGL: The rapidly evolving nature of ZF has made online tutorials a problem. The books are far more reliable (at least one them is even free in an incomplete form).

By: Juozas Kaziukenas’ Blog: Why Zend Framework? | Webs Developer

Juozas Kaziukenas’ Blog: Why Zend Framework? | Webs Developer — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:01:40 +0000

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